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9. Going with the flow and going against the flow
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Transurfing on Tuesday
- Flow is it better to go against the flow or go with the flow. Neither.
- Use the flow, don't fight it.
- Resistance - resisting what is.
- Fear or faith
- Vadim posts on Instagram - IF that is even him????
- All truths are half-truths - the Kybalion
- Why disturb your peace with things you cannot control? If you can control it take action do not push it on others!
- Episode on resistance.
- Is this really Vadim Zeland on Ingstagram? I am beginning to wonder. www.instagram.com/vadim_zeland_official
all right. Tree and surfing on Tuesday. We're talking about going with the flow in reality training. And we are on page 168. And while I read this, I want you to think about some of the Dean's posts as of late, where he is talking about the jab and he is instilling fear and talking propaganda. And if you read any of my blog posts about it, You will know exactly what I'm talking about, but after I read this, I will discuss it in more detail.
You're listening to the stuff, the mind screw podcast. I'm your host, Kathy Owen certified fitness trainer and mindset coach since 2002 transforming lives in magic fashion. Teaching stop the mind group process. And today we're talking trans surfing on Tuesday.
As I said before, we are talking about going with the flow on page 168, then needy and indignant go weekly with the flow of life while the fighter pushes against the flood. Of course in life. No one person is a pure example of either role. We all adopt one or more of these roles to a greater or lesser extent as life changes.
And yet none of them are particularly effective. It is not advisable to fight and going with the flow is to live. What other options are there earlier we described how reason authoritatively asserts its will based on common sense. Some people rationalize in a very reasonable, intelligent matter and are yet totally incapable of solving their own problems.
How useful can comments in speed. If the mind can not use it to provide an ideal solution to a problem? The thing is that even though the mind is being rational, it remains unaware of the fact that it is influenced by the thought patterns created by pendulum. Certainly while a person is playing the role of the needy, the indignant or the fighter, there can be no question of freedom of movement and reality.
The fighter has no more freedom to assert their true will. Then the little paper book. Metaphorically speaking, this is how the fighter moves with the flow of life. Pendulums, provoke, the fighter who then swims against the current, not understanding that it would be easier and more advantageous to use the flow.
The fighter's mind is gripped by pendulums, but the fighter is resolutely set on battle and by making resolute decisions, whips the water with all his. And places where calm, smooth movements would have sufficed. All right. So I'm talking about the pendulums that are affecting the fighter and the fighter is somebody who resist what's in reality or resist what's going on.
And in my opinion, and this is just my opinion that the deem is. Totally going against reality by talking by even talking about the jab, because what he's doing is he's got these pictures up and they show these lambs being sent in to slaughter blindly. And the way he talks about it is like the, the government is taking over and there's so much fear involved in his posts and I'll put a link to it.
The description in the show notes here, you can go look at it for yourself. However, to translate it from Russian into English is how you have to look at it because that's how Instagram works. So I have feel there still some lost in translation, but there's not a loss in the pictures because the pictures display, fear.
There's guns, there's violence. There's. A lot of scary posts she has in there. And a lot of us posts are great. I get that. But some of it is very scary and he gives into the fear mongering. He gives into the fear of the jab we're as if he was to go with the flow. What's so bad about thinking that, oh my God.
This might keep me from getting sick. It might keep me from getting my, um, older, relative sick. It might keep me from getting those with immune deficiencies sick. What a novel idea instead of going, oh, the government's putting something inside of me and you know, I, to be honest with you, I think the way I think, and I think with my higher self and my higher self doesn't think the way the deem is talking.
So in the Kabbalah and it says all truths are Haftar. So his truth is a half-truth, but so is mine, but mine sure feels a whole heck of a lot better than his. Is it fear? Absolutely. You know, I had this one girl that was following me on Instagram and she liked, liked all my posts and talked about it. We kind of seem to agree on a lot of the same things, but all of a sudden that jab came out and she was talking about it, killing children and how she was protesting it and how I needed to protest it.
And. Sending me video after video, after video, after video of all these conspiracy theories. When I told her don't send me this stuff, to me, that is rude and inconsiderate. Why would somebody do that? I had to block her. I had to block her over time because I'm like, I don't agree with you and you're not listening to me.
Why are you putting that fear in my world? I, I won't allow that to come into my world because that's not the way I live. Is it right? Probably there probably is some truth to all of that where there's smoke. There's fire. But am I going to live in fear and live in worried? I honestly do not believe that's the way we are meant to live.
It's not peaceful. There's enough stress out there. If I want to get upset, I'll just read the news and go on an endless rabbit hole of all of that. You're more than welcome to do that, but why do you want to disturb your peace? Like. Y. And why do you want to use the platform that you have with the people that are following you?
Why do you want to instill fear in them? Maybe it's because that gets you more followers. Maybe it gets you more inspired because people feel comfortable in fear. And that's kinda kind of weird too. Anyways, go with the flow. Bottom line, just like this says, go with the flow. Don't fight against it. Don't fight against the job.
Don't fight for it. It just go with the flow and let it take you where it's supposed to take. You have faith. Trust the process. I talk about that all the time. And to me, that's what this excerpt in reality transfer. Is about, is going with the flow. I mean, that's exactly what it says. So. Why not just do that.
Go listen to my episode on resistance. That's all that is is resistance. That's all. That is. All right. That's my episode for today. I hope you liked it. Be sure to share it with somebody who can benefit from it. And until next time see you next time, peace out and numbness this day.